Elizabeth Scripturient (the delinquent, ecumenical (hermionesviolin) wrote,
Elizabeth Scripturient (the delinquent, ecumenical
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Girl Meets World 1.01-1.07

I am definitely kind of burnt-out and in need of a vacation. (I've had a pretty good summer, but I've definitely been noticing myself feeling not super into working on stuff, so I think it's low-level burn-out. It's also possible that I'll feel better once the school year starts up and I'm busier, so weekends are a balance between suspecting I'll feel better if I'm productive vs. suspecting I'll feel better if I give myself some sabbath.)

I finally got Netflix, and inspired by escritoireazul's post, I watched a bunch of Girl Meets World. (And then proceeded to comments dump in her entry.)

1.01 "Girl Meets World"

The opening scene is so much <3.

However, so not into Farkle, or Corey. Why in the Year of our Lord two thousand and fifteen do we still have creepy boys and creepy dads as acceptable "comic relief"? (I'm willing to handwave the fact that class is like 2 minutes long and Corey has no professional boundaries, since it's clearly the kind of unrealistic that's done in service of a half-hour tv show. I'd like to think that Boy Meets World was more realistic, but I honestly don't remember.)

escritoireazul commented, "I'm also intrigued with the idea that it's possible that Corey and Topanga are parents that have forgotten what they were like as kids, or at least try to protect their kids from what they were like as kids. I'm running into this with my friends who have kids"

I wasn't convinced that the show was smart enough to be doing that intentionally, but I do think its very true of IRL friends.

Also from escritoireazul:
"a friend helps another friend out of trouble, not into it"

DID YOU FORGET EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN BOY MEETS WORLD, COREY?
INORITE?

[Riley to Maya] "If this is my world now, the first person I want in it is you."

1.02 "Girl Meets Boy"

escritoireazul:
Oh, great, the "technology means you don't connect" episode. This grossed me out back in the 2000s, it grosses me out now. Technology can help us connect, help us be friends, help us stay in touch, help us create together. Thank you, Lucas, for bringing up that point.
Yup, hate this trope, still so not into Farkle and Corey. (Though I did laugh at Topanga's "Please don't make your father right.")

I'm loving the hints at Maya's story -- I know it's totally an old trope, the disadvantaged kid from the other side of the tracks who acts out but has a heart of gold (okay wow, it's SO Shawn ... I hadn't realized how much until I wrote it out just now) but her "I don't have anyone to help me with my homework at night" (paraphrase) last episode was so poignant, and her "I don't have that kind of phone, so now it feels like we're even" (paraphrase) this episode was really well-done. And yup, still not into paranoid!dad trope, but "My motives are entirely selfish" / "I'm not entirely sure they are, Mr. Matthews" <3

1.03 "Girl Meets Sneak Attack"

WHY IS FARKLE ONE OF RILEY'S FRIENDS?!

Corey, you hate technology for communicating, but you watch TV at breakfast? Oh, because you desperately want your kids to stay kids. So not into this.

[Riley to Maya] "I wish the world was just me and you."

This show is so bad, but props to the kid playing Lucas for conveying (a) he was totally not into Missy in a dating way, and (b) he was totally charmed by Riley even when she had her finger up his nose.

The name cards cracked me up.

"If my friends are in it, then it's for me." Okay, Farkle, when you're not being hella obnoxious and/or creepy, you're actually a good kid.

*eyeroll* at Pearl Harbor propaganda

I think I'm too old to be watching this show, because at the end I wondered if Missy was a sexual abuse survivor who was coping by hyper-sexualizing. (Obviously there are plenty of other ways to read the text, but.)

It's probably because it's a Disney Channel show, but I appreciated that the kids don't rush to dating -- that Riley has significant feelings for Lucas but she doesn't feel ready to go to a movie alone with him and she's not even sure that she wants to ~date him, she just knows she doesn't want him dating Missy.

1.04 "Girl Meets Father"

"This isn't for you!"

"I know a lot of things are going to happen. Which one is this?" Good job, Topanga.

escritoireazul:
Ahahahahaha, I love how Lucas and Maya interact. She tries so hard to get to him, and he's just so casual and chill and fun. I love it, I love it, I love it.

[...]

Ahahahahaha, Lucas wore a cowboy hat just to keep the game with Maya going. I LOVE THEIR FRIENDSHIP SO MUCH.
(This makes me think of me and Patrick -- but I have almost no chill so yeah, not so much.)

[Maya to the Matthews] "I have to be able to talk to you." brb, sobbing irl

1.05 "Girl Meets the Truth"

Corey, why are you so mean about the chicken? I am hardcore "Everyone should (want to) know All the true things," and I'm like, "STFU." I appreciated that you didn't lie to your wife about liking her cooking, but why do you keep harping on it? I would understand if you were like, "This chicken was really dry," and Topanga was like, "No it's not," but like what are you even trying to accomplish? The cold sketti scene was well-done, but you are kind of a fail at being an adult that this was even necessary, Corey? (Also, sidebar: Topanga is a lawyer in freaking NYC and Corey's a middle school teacher who doesn't appear to do any outside of school hours work and she's the one who's making all the meals? Why still so regressive, tv?)

[Topanga and Corey] "Kiss kiss." / "Because you love me?" / "And because it quiets you down."

I would have been into Lucas and Riley kissing after that scene fades to black, but I liked that Lucas is holding out for his own organic moment. (Also, tempted to sign up for Yuletide just to request Riley and Maya kissing right after that scene goes black -- though yes I know specific plot requests like that are not how Yuletide works.)

1.06 "Girl Meets Popular"

[Maya to Riley] "I love you, but you a lot of work."

SO OVER the geek jokes. Why are we still doing this, tv?

"What'd you do with my girl?" Shipping it.

"Harajuku Girl" *Googles* Learned a new word. And lost some respect for Gwen Stefani.

*flashback* I'd been reminding myself that this show isn't aimed at me -- that it's a Disney Channel show aimed at kids who watch shows about 7th graders (thus, kids who are younger than 7th graders -- cf., how old we were when we read the Baby-Sitters Club books, which are primarily about 13-year-olds). But yeah, we're those kids' parents, and of course this show is gonna fanservice us.

[mean lawyer] "You're not on this case. Because you like people. And that gets in my way."

Why the Communism joke?

"My world needs you in it." &Maya;

[Riley and Topanga] "I'm extremely popular with 5 people." / "Is one of them you?"

The bakery do-good felt really flat. Like, I understand the small business vs. big chain/evil law firm trope, but I didn't *feel* any reason to root for this particular small business. (Also, I was hoping Topanga would use her shark lawyer powers to demonstrate the loophole wasn't really a loophole. Because like, are they just subsidizing the rent? Fine, you get an advance from the law firm, but an advance for how many months of the rent?)

Aww, we called out the cultural appropriation :) I was not actually expecting that. And I didn't even feel like, "Oh, you're only doing this to serve your broader 'be yourself' message."

1.07 "Girl Meets Maya's Mother"

"Why aren't we drawing Lucas?" / "Because no one looks like that. Get used to this."

Yay, black woman art teacher! The school feels pretty white depsite it being NYC -- I was pleased to see PoC in the geek episode, but that was sort of undercut by them all being Indian and East Asian.

[Corey] "You know what's not a waste of time? Mashed potatoes."
(I like potatoes a lot, y'all.)

[the art teacher and Maya]
"You don't listen to a word I say."
"It's not because I'm disrespectful."
"It's because you're an artist."

"Riley, this is the most authentic piece you've done all semester. Now clean it up."

[Farkle] "Look at that lady. Why did you only draw half of her?"
BLESS YOU, LUCAS!

[Katy and Riley]
"I love that little girl. I won't pretend with her."
"You need to go to her."

I couldn't decide whether the show was gonna have the happy ending with the mom after all, and while I have mixed feelings about how it played out, I do appreciate that privileged seventh-grader Riley doesn't get to magically fix everything. And I do appreciate that the talent she inherited most from her parents is fierce friendship. (One could, in response to that, ask where Shawn is, but...)

Weeping IRL at the explanation of the tuna melt.

... And that's where I decided to stop watching, at least for tonight.
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Not reading any further until I watch the next few episodes tomorrow, but I'm so glad you've started watching too!

(Also, tempted to sign up for Yuletide just to request Riley and Maya kissing right after that scene goes black -- though yes I know specific plot requests like that are not how Yuletide works.)

But providing potential prompts is, and I can think of at least one person who might be inspired by that sort of prompt this Yuletide.
Thanks -- it's fun to chat media texts with people! (I appreciate your putting up with my comments dumping on your entry.) For years, pretty much my only fannish text consumption has been MCU, and while my life is really full and I'm okay with just doing fannish osmosis for lots of shows, I do kind of miss the fannish interaction.

At the last local fannish brunch, we were talking Yuletide, and the problem of finding fandoms to volunteer. I feel like I tend to not have a lot of stories to tell about the stuff I watch/read (though after the first fannish brunch this summer, I started a bunch of fics -- which I also haven't done in years), so that's one of my hesitations around signing up for Yuletide.
Putting up with does not nearly describe how much joy I received from your comments!

I like the idea of a local fannish brunch.

This year, I'm having trouble finding Yuletide fandoms I want to request, rather than volunteer; I'm just not feeling passionate about anything (or, I wasn't, my intentional focus on potential Yuletide fandoms, including GMW, is helping with that), and for me, I need to be passionate about a fandom before I can request it for Yuletide. I'm lucky in that most of the fandoms in which I write are Yuletide eligible, so that doesn't tend to be a problem (though I do try to stretch myself, too, to make it more of a challenge).
:)

NYC has a fannish brunch, and someone at muskratjamboree this year decided to start one in Boston. Because it started in the summer, it's been more like outdoor-picnic and may migrate to people's-living-rooms come cooler weather.

for me, as fan gatherings always are, since I'm not all that actively fannish these days -- and even when I am, I'm often not fannish in the same way/into the same stuff -- but it's been good enough to feel worth having gone each time.

I'm not sure close you are to KC these days (or if it holds too many bad memories to go back), but maybe we could get together when I visit bff?

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That would have been good to know!
"What'd you do with my girl?" Shipping it.

YES.

The bakery do-good felt really flat. Like, I understand the small business vs. big chain/evil law firm trope, but I didn't *feel* any reason to root for this particular small business. (Also, I was hoping Topanga would use her shark lawyer powers to demonstrate the loophole wasn't really a loophole. Because like, are they just subsidizing the rent? Fine, you get an advance from the law firm, but an advance for how many months of the rent?)

This was exactly my response, too.

I couldn't decide whether the show was gonna have the happy ending with the mom after all, and while I have mixed feelings about how it played out, I do appreciate that privileged seventh-grader Riley doesn't get to magically fix everything. And I do appreciate that the talent she inherited most from her parents is fierce friendship. (One could, in response to that, ask where Shawn is, but...)

Yeah, I'm not sure the logic works for me with Maya's mom (I mean, one of the takeaways seemed like if you are a poor parent who wants a different [read: better] life for your kids, you need to stay away from them and let their friend's more successful parents raise them?), but I liked that Riley can't fix these things in the span of 20 minutes or so.

Good point RE Shawn.

Weeping IRL at the explanation of the tuna melt.

I'll be ok with just half. OH MAYA MY HEART.
I know I was thinking of Shawn because you had brought him up in your commentary on Episode 1 -- but his floppy-haired self does show up in the flashback scene, so...

> I mean, one of the takeaways seemed like if you are a poor parent who wants a different [read: better] life for your kids, you need to stay away from them and let their friend's more successful parents raise them?

Which feels in-character for Katy, but I didn't want the show to fully endorse that view. I mean, I appreciate that it's not doing the sugar-coated "every major life problem can be solved in a 20-minute episode" (and Maya, I love your surprise!art talent, but I worry for your future 'cause that is not an easily marketable skill), but I feel like the show was complicit in Katy's assertion that she basically *couldn't* be a good mom to Maya (even though she clearly loves her and wants to do right by her).