Elizabeth Scripturient (the delinquent, ecumenical (hermionesviolin) wrote,
Elizabeth Scripturient (the delinquent, ecumenical

[CAUMC] Luke 7:11-17, Raising the Widow's Son [2008-06-05]

alt-tag: welfare and zombies

The commentary talked a lot about the parallels to an Elijah story (1 Kings 17:10, 17-24), but that wasn't particularly fruitful for discussion. Neither were the Reflections. It was just me, Meredith (leading), and Mike present that night, and we spent a bit of time just going, "Uh..."

In rereading the passage, I noticed the bit: "The dead man sat up and began to speak, and Jesus gave him to his mother. Fear seized all of them, and they glorified God." I talked about how current-day Christians often tend to domesticate God, imaging God the way we want, and how God is so much greater than that. I also pointed out how their reaction to the fear was to glorify God... that it wasn't like they were afraid that Jesus was empowered by the devil or anything, but because God's power is so much greater than ours, God is justifiably scary.

Meredith referenced the hymn "Our God Is An Awesome God."

Mike commented that he doesn't think of God as like that, as scary because of His power, and I said that I'm definitely not big on God as a big scary punisher in the sky, but usually when I'm talking about God being so much greater than what we can think of, I'm thinking about things like trying to live our lives as God wants us to and not necessarily as we would prefer and I don't think it would be a huge stretch to connect that to the text... to talk about how opening up oneself to what God wants us to do (cf. discussion a couple weeks ago about [being willing to] give up all of one's possessions -- the rich young man who went away unhappy) is frightening.

This of course begs the question of how one discerns God's Will (something we frequently come back to in our discussions).

The Commentary and Reflections both mention how Jesus "had compassion for" the widow. We talked about compassion and giving and how some people will take advantage of your generosity and how that's compounded when it's government programs because then people feel like it's not even like, "I gave money to this person and they abused that generosity," but it's "The government took my money without my consent [taxes] and gave it to these no-good people whom if I were in charge I would have known better than do do so." I said that while I absolutely think people should be thoughtful in their giving, thinking about what causes are important to them and how their money can be put to the best use, I think there's a Scriptural grounding for generous giving, giving without expectation of return ("from anyone who takes away your coat do not withhold even your shirt. Give to everyone who begs from you; and if anyone takes away your goods, do not ask for them again." -Luke 6:29b-30). In writing this up I realized that part of what I'd been trying to think of was stuff like the woman who anoints Jesus with expensive perfume... the adjective I'm trying to think of escapes me... something like "lavish." (Note to self: research project: commandments to generosity in the Bible.)


Mike Affirmed that I'm "consistent." \o/
Tags: church: caumc: ya group, church: caumc: ya group: bible

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