The other interns at Teen Voices today were talking about Michael Moore's new movie while we were hanging out before training started and i was just staying quiet. Then someone mentioned GWB's cousin's involvement in FOX, which was the first station to announce that Bush had won Florida, and i had just been reading about this in a conservative's book and i said the call was made around 2am and everyone else had the numbers that said Bush won but they had already called Florida for Gore before the polls had closed and actually cost Bush votes by announcing the polls were closed before they really were and soon we were arguing about (who won) the Florida recounts.
I like arguing with people, though i always feel like everyone else has more facts than i do, but damn i hate that feeling like i'll be lynched if i open my mouth, when everyone is heartily agreeing with each other and you know you're not allowed to agree on points of any real substance. I like to think that most people are in fact willing to respectfully debate, but listening to people when they think everyone listening agrees with them makes me deeply pessimistic (more than that it just hurts). I am deeply deeply grateful for Meredith and Allie and the other people i have in my life with whom i can disagree but still remain friends, the people with whom i'm allowed to be me.
My father was saying the other night that one way group identities are defined is by who you're allowed to hate. (Of course everyone agrees hate is bad, but [almost?] every group has people whom the group members agree are evil and thus we should hate them.)
During the conversation about the MM film, someone mentioned that yes it is manipulative, but so is everything else we see. It kills me that i have such high standards, that i want everyone else to want dispassioned presentations of facts and interpretations that are honest about their biases/agendas but cite all their sources (who should themselves be upfront about their own biases/agendas) and don't insult their opponents, because that's the stuff i want and i think the world would be such a better place if everyone went about things that way, but people think (perhaps rightly) that most people don't want that, would find it boring, so they make things dramatic and emotional and jokingly insult the opposition and all that and it pains me.